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2013 8-Weight Challenge: Fly Reel Review

Mar 10, 2013 · 10 min read
Ben FreemanBy Ben Freeman
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2013 8-Weight Challenge: Fly Reel Review

Close-up of anodized aluminum fly reels and spools loaded with neon yellow, green and blue fly line

Fly reels have come a long way from the Pflueger Medalist you used growing up. Some weigh next to nothing, while others have enough drag to stop a truck. Manufacturers have achieved these new levels of performance by using new materials and cutting edge design. But how do you tell the difference between cork and Rulon drags? Is Delrin smoother than graphite? Throughout the years a lot has been written about fly fishing equipment. Blogs, forums, magazines, manufacturers are full of information. There have even been several head-to-head tests of fly rods. Reels, on the other hand, have been virtually ignored. Why? Fly Reels are hard to test. It requires a lot of expensive equipment, knowledge, and time. We set out to break that mold. We wanted the test to remain objective, so the first part of the test is purely scientific, and we’ll give you all of the raw data to draw your own conclusions. But, we’re also going to tell you which reels we like best. Help us keep writing awesome reviews. Buy your next fly reel here.

Assorted anodized aluminum fly reels in silver, black, green and blue with neon yellow and green fly line, clustered on white

What makes a great saltwater fly reel?

That’s the question we asked ourselves when we conceived this test. We asked around. We wanted a drag that could stop a fleeing bonefish, yet was smooth enough to protect light(ish) tippets. We also wanted a reel that was light enough to cast all day long, and one that could hold enough backing (at least 150 yards) in case that baby tarpon turns out to be bigger than a baby. Finally, we wanted a reel that could pick up line fast with minimal level winding and withstand all of the rigors of saltwater use.

Testing Procedure

All spool measurements were taken using a digital caliper and weights were captured using a digital scale. Testing the drags was the tough part. Luckily, we teamed up with the folks at Admet, the makers of the best universal testing machines on the market. They set us up with one of their fully customized eXpert 2600 Dual Column testing machines. Each reel was then filled with backing and attached to the base of the eXpert 2600 via a custom machined reel mount. The backing was then attached to a hook which is attached to the load cell. We then set the machine in motion and measured the force nearly 1000 times per second. Richard Gedney, founder of Admet, explains this in more detail. We tested all reels with backing only. We found that when fly line was on the reel, it shifted around too much to get consistent results. Rigging Matters.

Arbor Size and Retrieval Rate

When a bonefish turns and starts swimming toward you, you need to reel as fast as you can to keep the fish on. It also means fewer turns to bring in that trophy catch. Therefore, bigger IS better, as they say. For those of you who don’t know, the arbor refers to the mid-section of the spool. Think of the hole in the donut. Following the analogy, the larger the diameter of the hole, the larger the arbor. All of the fly reels we tested claim to be “large arbor”, but we discovered that there was quite a variation between reels. As you might expect, the classic Tibor Everglades was the smallest at 1.58 inches, nearly 42% smaller than the Ross F1 at 2.73 inches. But what we really care about is line pickup, and therefore, that’s what we scored as part of the test. To get this, we needed to determine the circumference at 2.2 cubic inches. That’s how much space 200 yards of Dacron backing takes up. The formula is:

Black mathematical formula on white background: 2π√(2.2/(π·Width_spool)+(Arbor Size/2)^2) for fly reel spool dimensions

Not surprisingly, the results were very similar. The Tibor Everglades was the smallest at 7.57 inches, 23% smaller than the winner: Winner: Ross F1 Fly Reel, 9.79 inches per turn

Spool Width

For many years, the trend in fly reel manufacturing was to make the arbors larger and the spools wider. Why? It helps keep the weight down and gives you a fast retrieval rate. This comes at a price, however, which is you having to act as a level wind every time you reel in your line so that the line doesn't pile up. A few reels have started to buck this trend - namely, the Hardy Ultralite DD, and the Lamson Speedster. These reels have large narrow spools. That's exactly what we were looking for. The top four reels came in within a few hundreths of an inch: Winners: Hardy Fortuna, Tibor Everglades, Tibor Signature and the Abel Super 8

Spool Volume

Bigger reels are more flexible. They hold more line and give you more options – like being able to put a 9 or 10-weight line on an 8-weight reel. We calculated estimated volume using the following formula:

Spool volume formula for fly reel: V_spool = π(r_max^2 − r_arbor^2)·Width_spool — black serif math on white background

This calculation isn’t exact because some of the spool designs featured arbors that weren’t flat, but it does give us a basic idea of reel capacity. While all the reels we tested were “8-weights”, there is clearly no standard here. 200 yards of 20lb Dacron takes up about 2.2 cubic inches when wound reasonably tightly. The largest reel could easily take an extra 100 yards of backing. Winner: Sage 8080/Hatch 7-Plus Side note: Because this category is about flexibility, and the Hatch 7 Plus also accepts a Mid-Arbor Spool, which is even bigger than the 8080, we decided that they would share the victory.

Weight

As fly fisherman, we’ve become obsessed with weight. Rods are pushing the limits, some weighing in at less than two ounces. Reels are getting lighter too. Why are lighter reels better? As rods get lighter, you need lighter reels to balance them. Moreover, when you’re casting all day a lighter outfit is easier on your arms. The lightest reels in this test were lighter than most trout reels, while the heaviest weighed in at over 9 ounces (over half a pound!). Winner: Lamson Vanquish 7.8LT

Price

We tested reels from $100-$800. Prices don’t necessarily correlate with performance, the Orvis Mirage took 3rd place in our test, and cost hundreds less than the most expensive reels. We were even more surprised when the Sage 1800 reel, the least expensive in our test, tied for 4th place. So, what are you paying for? The more expensive reels tend to offer a greater level of customization. Abel lets you customize virtually every single part of the reel (even the drag knob and reel seat), and even offers hand painted options from great artists like Derek DeYoung. Tibor offers custom engraving and some of the most beautiful metallic finishes ever created. Winner: Sage 1880

Sealed Drag

A sealed drag is a key component of any good saltwater fly reel. It keeps salt and sand away from all of the important parts. But, there’s more than one way to solve this problem. Classic reels like Tibor and Abel have proven this through countless world records. By using very few parts, and making them easy to access/service, they’ve achieved great results without “sealing” the drag. We weren't able to fully test the quality of various drag seals (this is typically done with a “freeze test”), but we do know that some drags are more sealed than others. For the purposes of this test, we scored reels with male/female connections lower than the drags with machined connections like Hatch and Hardy. Note how the reel on the right requires you to insert a rod into the drag system, where the Hardy (left) attaches the spool directly to top of the drag. Black ported aluminum fly reel with gold anodized drag knob, modern lightweight design for fly fishingSilver machined-aluminum fly reel with perforated spool and orange anodized hub, lightweight Trident design

Sounds

Sound is an important, yet often under appreciated, part of a fly reel. Drag sounds provide a lot of feedback when fighting a fish, which is useful, but they also add to the excitement of catching a fish that makes a great run. At Trident, we prefer reels that have both an incoming (when reeling in) and outgoing (when the fish is taking the drag) sound. We knew that reels like Tibor sounded great, but we were surprised to hear (pun intended) how well the Ross Momentum LT sounded. It's great!

Look, Feel, & Special Features

We can talk about fly reel performance all day long, but when it comes down to buying a reel, look and feel is just as important. That’s why top reel manufacturers offer dozens of custom colors and 100s of possible combinations. This is purely subjective, but there's unlikely to be many people who prefer the feel of a Redington over a Tibor. So, we gave you our opinions on the matter. A few of the reels also had some interesting special features, like the Sage 8000's "Dial-a-Drag", which allows you to pre-set your drag level as you pull off your fly line. Abel also built their reel with VERY few parts, making it incredibly easy to service. We gave these reels an extra point for ingenuity. Want to know about spare spools and changing the retrieve? Check out our reel notes at the bottom of the page.

Warranty

When you're spending half of your paycheck on a fly reel, it's important that you know the manufacturer is going to stand behind it. Thankfully, every reel we tested came with a lifetime warranty from the manufacturer. Unfortunately, there's a "handling fee" associated with it. Except for Hatch. They stand behind their product so much that they don't even charge you a fee if it breaks. We scored this based on the % of the original purchase price the fee was.

Drag Strength

What differentiates a freshwater fly reel from a saltwater fly reel? Drag Strength. When you’re trying to stop a bull redfish, 3-4lbs of drag isn’t going to cut it. Ideally, you’ll want enough drag to match your tippet size, less a few pounds of water drag (the force of the water on the line). For bonefish, that means at least 8lbs. Baby tarpon or big stripers – 10-12lbs. We measured drag strength by averaging the force after the reel hit its peak (about 2 inches). Surprisingly, only two reels in the test had drags that exceeded 10 lbs of drag. The winner of this category, the Hardy Fortuna, had over 30lbs of drag!!!! We had heard the claims, but didn't believe it. Watch check out this video of the Fortuna breaking 20lb Dacron: Winner: (by a HUGE margin) Hardy Fortuna X

Start-up Inertia

If you troll the fly fishing forums, there's a lot of talk about start-up inertia - and with good reason. But let's back up. What is start-up inertia? All drags work in essentially the same way - two plates create friction which slows the spinning of the spool. There are two types of friction: static - when the drag isn't moving - and kinetic - when a fish is pulling on the drag. Start-up inertia is the initial force required to get the drag started. So, it's actually a bit of a misnomer. It should actually be called "static friction". So... who cares? Because static friction is greater than kinetic friction, it causes a drop in drag force immediately after the fish starts pulling on your line. Here's what it looks like on a drag graph:

Blue line chart showing fly reel drag test: force (lb) rises sharply then plateaus around 6-7 lb across distance

You'll notice that this reel requires over 2 lbs of start-up force. If we're using 8 lb test tippet, we now need to set our drag to a maximum of 5-6 lbs so that it doesn't break the tippet. Effectively, we're losing 25% of our drag strength. Because all forces are exacerbated at higher speeds, imagine how much drag is lost with a bonefish traveling at 15-20 miles per hour. Needless to say, we were very surprised to find out that start-up inertia was actually fairly low for most reels, but a few reels really stood out. The Hatch Finatic and the Ross F1 both had virtually zero start-up inertia. Winner: Hatch Finatic/Ross F1

A Note on Drag Smoothness

When we saw how good Admet's machines were, we were planning on including a category for "drag smoothness". When we tested it, however, we found that most of the drags were actually very smooth, and would have no impact on any real fishing application. In fact, the testing machines were so accurate, that we found that the position of the line on the reel made more of a difference than the drag itself. So, we didn't score it, but if we had, the Ross F1, would have been the winner.

The Winner

Silver machined aluminum fly reel center cap with red FINATIC Made in USA lettering and aqua fly line on spool

We weren't all that surprised when we tabulated the results and the Hatch Finatic 7-Plus turned out to be the winner. Everyone that's ever picked up a Hatch fly reel knows that they are an incredible piece of equipment. It's beautifully machined, and has a silky smooth, very well sealed drag. They also have the best warranty in the business. If we had to find something wrong with this reel, it would be that it doesn't have as much drag as we'd really like to see. Counterpoint #1: Which reel will I be taking tarpon fishing? Easy. The Hardy Fortuna X. When drag performance is what matters most, Hardy is the unconditional winner. Counterpoint #2: If you're only going to be using your reel in freshwater (or for relatively small fish), the Ross F1 offers the smoothest drag and the most protection for light tippets.

The Results

2013 8-weight fly reel review table with black and red scores, white grid background listing models and total scores

The raw data

Spreadsheet table of 2013 8-weight fly reel review with fly reel specs, prices and red and blue highlighted numbers

Reel Notes and Drag Strength Graphs

1. Hatch Finatic 7-Plus Silver machined aluminum fly reel with teal spool accents and red Trident logo center; sleek modern 8-weight reel
2. Hardy Fortuna X1 Silver and gold anodized aluminum 8-weight fly reel with ventilated spool and machined center drag knob, fly fishing
3. Orvis Mirage IV Gold anodized aluminum fly reel with pale blue fly line wound on machined spool and black handle
4. Sage 1880 Black anodized large-arbor fly reel with lime-green backing line visible through circular spool holes, star-drag knob
4. Cheeky Mojo 425 Anodized blue and gold CNC-machined 8-weight fly reel with three-arm spool and yellow backing line, modern metallic finish
4. Tibor Everglades Champagne machined aluminum 8-weight fly reel with perforated spool and black knobs, Trident reel
4. Lamson Guru 3.5 Silver aluminum 8-weight fly reel with neon green backing line, large-arbor perforated spool and black-red drag knob
5. Sage 4280 Olive-green anodized aluminum large-arbor 8-weight fly reel with vented perforated spool and machined center hub
5. Sage 8080 Two-tone aluminum fly reel with gold perforated spool and silver frame, large-arbor machined design for fly fishing
6. Abel Super 8 Glossy black anodized aluminum fly reel with circular vent holes and neon yellow fly line, Trident 8-weight reel
6. Sage 6080 Black anodized large-arbor fly reel with yellow perforated spool and machined metal frame, Trident fly fishing
7. Tibor Signature 7-8 Polished silver machined-aluminum fly reel with large-arbor ventilated spool and classic click-drag style, 8-weight
7. Ross F1 #4 Silver machined aluminum large-arbor 8-weight fly reel with red spool core, bright yellow line and black drag knob
7. Ross Momentum LT 4 Pale green anodized 8-weight fly reel with machined perforated aluminum spool and black drag knob, fly fishing
8. Lamson Vanquish 7.8LT Gunmetal gray ventilated fly reel with olive-green backing line, machined aluminum V-plate and 8-weight design
9. Redington Delta 7/8 Metallic gray fly reel with brass rim, perforated spool and green fly line with cream backing, compact fly fishing reel
10. Redington Rise 7/8 Black aluminum 8-weight fly reel with large-arbor perforated spool and bright yellow fly line, T-bar handle
We'd love to hear your feedback on this test. Please leave a comment below. If you've gotten this far, I commend you - it's a novel. Don't forget to check out the other posts in our great fly fishing blog.
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Ben Freeman founded Trident Fly Fishing in 2012 to cut through the marketing fluff and provide anglers with the technical info they actually need. He’s built his reputation by putting gear to the ultimate test in the world’s most unforgiving fisheries. With fishing stamps from over 22 countries and 17+ states, Ben’s passport is a roadmap of bucket list angling—from landing a 25lb Golden Dorado in Bolivia and 150lb Arapaima in Guyana to sight-casting for Roosterfish off the beaches in Baja. Whether it’s battling 60+mph winds to land a 20lb Rainbow at Jurassic Lake or a full day of casting 8in streamers in Mongolia, Ben has spent decades ensuring his gear performs when a trip of a lifetime is on the line.

At Trident, Ben serves as the lead gear geek, specializing in the deep-dive mechanics of rods, reels, and lines. Over the past 15 years, he's reviewed 250+ fly rods and 150+ fly reels and is likely one of the most prolific rod reviewers in the world. But he doesn't just curate the catalog; he scrutinizes every taper and drag system through the lens of a traveling angler who knows what it's like to have gear fail a thousand miles from home. For Ben, the mission is simple: leverage his experience across nearly 100 species to ensure that when you head into the wild, you’re equipped with gear that has been vetted by someone who has actually been there.

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